1. Could you comment on the experiences people are reporting using the Klini bed? Not only is Dannion using one at his house, but there is a Dannion type "center" in Overton Texas. Are you encouraged by the fascinating reports of klini experiencers?

2. Your comments about the Meduna Mixture left me very interested in this unconventional therapy. Can you tell us more or direct me to your source material? What are your thoughts on modern day clinical trials?

3. What were your source materials used in your description of the ancient Egyptian king ritual?

Posted by Melvin Morse on October 01, 1998 at 14:01:50:
In Reply to: Klini beds, Meduna mixture, Egyptian king ritual posted by D. C. Dean O. D. on September 28, 1998 at 19:29:10:

Dear Dean,
Dannion (Brinkley)'s bed is a method for inducing the hypnagognic state (discussed in vol 4:) I discuss Raymond Moody's mirror gazing technique, which Dannion refined and turned into the bed. There is a bit of dispute between the two of them over credit for the invention, it is fair to say that both of them have developed a practical technique to induce the hypnagognic state.

This state is responsible for many of the inventions of modern life, including the polio vaccine, which mention of set off the discussion below by "Pierre". Jonas Salk is very candid and has widely published his belief that he channeled information while in a sleepy half awake state, of a wide variety of information, including help on developing the vaccine. Jonas Salk, not me, has stated he feels the source is intelligent beings not on Earth.

It may also be a way of accessing communication with those who have died, which is what Dannion and Raymond use it for.

The Medune Mixture is a fascinating story which I will discuss in detail in a future issue. Very briefly, Dr. Atkinson, at Northwestern University, used it to change peoples personalities with the intent to heal their ulcers. Many patients thought they were dying and described NDE-like experiences, and in theory, the mixture would seem to induce near death.. His son is still chief of Gastroenterology at Northwestern, or at least was until several years ago when I last spoke with him. No one has used the Medune mixture in many years.

Both the hypnagognic state and the Medune mixture, although inducing an NDE-like experience, may not be the real thing. See Jerry's comments on LSD and the LIght Experience. This is unknown at this time, from a scientific standpoint.

Finally, my sources on the rituals of Egypt come from Time Life Books and the Encyclopedia Britanica. The more controversial parts of it come from AP BRunton, a very controversial source.

An Egyptologist recently wrote to me and debated and attempted to refute Brunton's research. I offered her a dinner for two for any restaurant in Seattle, if she would write an actual manuscript, referencing her objections, and I would submit it to the Journal of Near Death Studies, and she declined to take me up on the offer. I am not pretending to be an expert in Egypt, but it is pretty amazing what the experts say on this issue.

Melvin Morse